In Cria, more traditional forms – samba or capoeira – rub shoulders with the homespun movements of hip-hop, breakdance, voguing and others, with great sophistication. What are the characteristic features of these dances, passinho and its derivative dancinha, that attracted you?

When the Panorama dance festival asked me to select an urban dance style in 2014 and expand on it with young dancers I chose passinho, a new and very technical style. I had seen it on the Internet and really liked it. I held auditions, and our small experiment miraculously grew into the show SUAVE.

I had already worked with hip hop, krump and popping dancers. Passinho is completely different, and I love funk music.

The dancers casually borrow from hip-hop and are constantly inventing new movements. There is a lot of discrimination around this musical genre and this dance form, as it is often associated with drug traffickers and violence, notably police violence, a common occurrence in the favelas.

The atmosphere that gave rise to these dances is very complex. There is much lingering prejudice. Brutal wars rage in the favelas, but local dances like passinho and dancinha manage to connect with people, breaking down barriers. The young dancers circulate freely. Art makes connections in the embittered slums.

You have said that you are not looking for virtuosity or formal prowess. Yet in Cria, the spectacular nature of certain figures seems to be a important source of affirmation for the dancers. Where do these impressive feats come from?

My contribution consists of building a world where the language and the technique of the dancers can exist and thrive. If one of them commits to difficult or virtuoso figures, it is because he or she wants to. They invented passinho, and know its inherent codes. They put the steps and the movements to the test in other spaces inside the favela.

Onstage, of course, those figures take on another meaning such as Mayla’s solo, for example, with the swirling whirlwind of her hair.

From one performance to another and with an enthusiastic response from the audience, that solo has grown significantly. She is the master of that segment and how long it lasts. The dance of Mayla’s hair reflects a claiming and defining of her own space by this artist from the LGBTIQ+ community.

Cria thrums with expansive liberty, sensuality and an energy that takes on all sorts of meaning, yet suddenly there is gunfire and a scene of raw, explicit violence. Was that sudden emergence imposed?

That reality is very important. We cannot remove violence from these performers because it is part of their daily lives. Staying alive is what is at stake in their work. Several friends and acquaintances who danced with them are dead; it is a difficult subject to broach.

We improvised quite a lot during the creative process: dance, theatre, speech. Violence lurks around every corner and explodes in brutal, straightforward fashion.

For them it is all linked together: life, dance, violence, death. It is sad that we can’t present a show without evoking violence, without having it appear onstage.

There is a palpable solidarity, fraternity and tenderness among the male dancers in Cria, particularly in the final duo. How did you establish that relation, which runs counter to the prevailing masculine stereotypes in Brazil?

I had that scene in mind even before the piece took shape. The creative process was a pretext for developing those types of movements and feelings. I gave birth shortly before we started to work on this dance, and that experience was very vivid in my mind.

Some dancers in the group are fathers, and each member of the group – particularly the men – felt connected to the notion of paternity. In the favelas there are many homes with no men, fatherless families. The men die quite young or are unable to function within the family structure.

I was looking how to make a connection between sensual aspects and the violence of their environment – drugs, arrests, prison, death. Right from the start, the dancers came to grips with touching, with respecting each other and integrating their differences.

That sensitive experience belongs to a different world. In Brazil for several years now people have been talking about feminism, but without evoking the reasons for doing so. What happened to the men? What is the source of that violence that is concentrated in their souls?

It seemed to me that if men were able to touch each other, deal with the homosexual part of their nature and raise children, they would never lack respect for women.

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