« It looks like a small but not yet born Japanese flower. » That phrase, which planted the seed for this piece, was uttered by your goddaughter Léone. Are your thoughts about language and childhood a big part of Violence?

Children say such intriguing things. They’ve capable of intricate thinking at a young age. That phrase as well as « And chaos knocked on God’s door » are two good examples. When uttered those words touch us, but we very soon forget them. We don’t make the same effort to try to see what’s behind that thinking, to understand where it’s coming from and where it might lead us. There is a magnificent statement by the writer John Berger: « If you want to know where you are going, look where the children are coming from. » I think that one of the first acts of violence we face as children is abandoning that singular voice, holding it in check, amending it for more appropriate speech. As children grow older they change and become themselves, but they are also put to the test, made to conform. The first part of Violence, Introduction à la violence, which was presented at Usine C last spring, is a response to that.

When you see the title Violence, you might expect it to be about physical violence and its social, political and economic ramifications. There is a bit of that in this piece, of course, but I want to isolate that word from all those concepts. This is not a manifesto. I let the violence transpire in tableaux designed with the artists working on this project.

A substantial section of the project was created in part in Japan, in Kinosaki and in Tokyo, in collaboration with Japanese artists. What was the creative impetus that led you to explore other perceptions of time, existence and violence with those women?

The initial spark for this piece occurred in Tokyo when I visited a group show entitled Catastrophe and the Power of Art: What Art can do in Chaotic Times where the Future is Uncertain. I was accompanied by Antonin Sorel, the project’s set designer. The Japanese are constantly living under the threat of natural catastrophes caused by the destructive presence of mankind. With Violence I wanted to explore that aspect by asking how my work as an artist might interact with that reality. I’m very concerned about the social and environmental challenges we are facing. In the years to come, the majority of art works will bear traces of the approaching collapse.

The creative residency in Japan grew out of a desire to find myself in another universe, to experience a cultural immersion. I wanted the presence of Japanese artists to evoke a Japan of the past and also a contemporary, indeed futurist Japan. I am keen to know what ties them to the past and what the future invokes. As is the case in kabuki theatre, I wanted a dramatic revelation at a certain point in the show, a reversal of fortune, a character’s true nature suddenly revealed. I want theatre and creative art, as a shared subconscious, to be a gesture of solidarity, resonance and sharing. That was my impetus.

The piece begins with Léone’s phrase, which is an invitation to creativity, whereas violence, at the theoretical level, summons an urge for destruction. How do you explain that contradiction?

The idea of a new beginning at a time when the world is on the verge of collapse is also incarnated in Léone’s image. That little flower, as yet unborn, indicates something that will arrive in the future but that might have also already existed. It evokes the idea of an antechamber where the spirits wait, perhaps, for the moment of their (re)incarnation. And it is in that vestibule that the piece unfolds.

I see destruction and creation as being intertwined. Nature emerges from that symbiosis. It is a destructive force with its tidal waves and earthquakes, but also a creative force, as it gives birth to life. It incarnates a cycle of violence that is part of our ecosystem. That idea is clearly apparent in kintsugi, the Japanese art of repairing broken pottery, mending the breaks with lacquer mixed with gold, silver or platinum. It is a powerful metaphor and a major inspiration for us. I see it as a hymn to time and continuance, an ode to the beauty of old age, the sanctity of experience that can only be acquired over time.

Interview with Marie Brassard | Violence

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