How is the writing of a Quebec constitution based on democratic principles part of your artistic approach?
I started asking questions, increasingly specific questions, and the project expanded and grew from there. For example, what is a stage play? I also wanted to include politics in my works, the world I live in, but I realized that I was unable to because I didn’t know where to begin. What do we want, and how do we get there? Quebec did not sign the 1982 constitution, but is nonetheless part of Canada. The context is different in English-speaking Canada, due to its history and the global economic power of the English language.
The attitude for example, given the lack of a Quebec constitution, that Quebec should adopt Canadian multiculturalism, which reflects the colonialist reality of this former British dominion. In Quebec we have a social framework of peaceful coexistence that is distinct from that of English Canada, but has not been codified. So my thought was, let’s put our collective way of living in writing, let’s draft our own constitution! For in Canada, a province can have a constitution.
What was the reaction to using theatre to draft a constitution?
The goal of the project is to put to the test the idea of theatre as a place for debate, to restore its role as the agora, a centre of social and civic life where citizens meet and exchange ideas, and to document the process and turn it into a work of art. That generated many different reactions among the people I approached for funding and organizing the project.
Some see theatre as the perfect cover for this sort of democratic experience, and feel that something will be learned. Others, generally from the world of partisan politics, feared that we would be “playing with democracy”. In short, financing this civic process of direct participatory democracy was not easy. In the end, I think it was made possible thanks to the faith of those involved – people from diverse backgrounds – their faith in art as a force for social change.
This non-partisan civic exercise has probably irritated the partisan political class. For me, the best moments were linked to establishing the context of the legal reality of Indigenous peoples. The complexity of our Canadian apartheid, with its legal loopholes and regulatory vacuums, is absolutely fascinating. It reveals a system where, to preserve a certain “social peace” that favours large corporations, we continue, collectively and on a daily basis, to perpetuate a cultural genocide that is very much a part of a colonialist mentality.
Has Constituons ! answered your questions, e.g. What is a stage play? What do we want, and how do we get there?
The idea that language imposes conventions on our lives is at the very heart of this project. I am more convinced than ever that the law and theatre have much in common. In both types of discourse, conventions must be established. In the world of constitutional law, the fact that a citizenry has a text that establishes the rules for peaceful co-existence is to my mind similar to theatre, where conventions are established that allow a stage play to unfold before an audience. To a certain extent, this project is rooted in the fictional nature of politics.
Never has Shakespeare’s phrase “All the world’s a stage and all the men and women merely players” seemed so relevant to me. As for how do we get where we want to go, at the time of this interview the final text of a Quebec constitution has not yet been drafted. It should be finalized by the constituent assembly just before the first performances at the FTA. Perhaps I’ll finally discover how to convey my ideas about politics by reading this new constitution on the night of the première!
How do you think Constituons ! might affect the future of your artistic approach?
With this adventure I’ve created what could be termed a “useful work”. I’m a grand defender of the pointlessness of art. In a world like ours, art as a “useless object” is essential in its opposition to utilitarianism, where everything is formatted. While this process has deeply affected me for the way it opens theatre up to new possibilities, I still believe in the power of text-based theatre, works from the repertoire and unrefined creative works. My career has consisted of various adventures and highly diverse artistic forms; far from me the desire to identify with a tightly defined movement. The theatre is a place for discovery, and I continue to be pleasantly surprised by the oblique paths it explores and the places it takes us.